Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27980194-20170224234227/@comment-27980194-20170226064056

Gameuser10 wrote: I stand with Klstix's position after discussion with him on the current server. I still oppose the creation of a new server and see it as unnecessary. Most of the people there are from the wiki, and I could argue that the quality of discussion decreased and the population increased when the links were shared on the Wiki's front page, advertised as the official server. How would a new one make anything different or, as Noah puts it, "identify" more with the Wiki? I'm pretty sure the claim that most of the people there are from the wiki is actually just outright false. Out of around 24 users that are active, I can think of about 6-8 that are active that are also from the wiki.

And yeah sure while you can point to our inclusion of the button on the main page as a reason for lower quality chat, I could also then point to your notion that quality has decreased, as a sign that either your staff has made poor decisions, or better yet, just poor staff/moderation in general. Do you want to trend down that path?

Concerning your last point, it'd make a lot of things different. For starters given that we would make the server, naturally we would also hold it to our own standards, and incorporate it for our own benefit. While you can argue that concessions to be made can make the current server more like a "Wiki server". Klstixbro has actually outright told me his intention is not to create a wiki server. Therefore, if our intention is to create a server that best reflects on the wiki, we're better off seperating.

Responding to Zoe/PhoenixKenny. Ok I keep hearing about this group that Stick made, can we just throw it out for the purpose of this discussion? It's practically nothing more than a friend group.

I also keep hearing about how this will divide the community, I don't really think that's much the case. For example, let's take the reddit discord. I hold the belief that the alternative server in of itself, did not cause the central server to lose people, but rather the central server lost people because it was a poor server. This is the way I look at it: Instead of trying to prevent the creation of a "competing" (honestly I don't even want to compete, seriously I just want a wiki server lol) server, focus instead on trying to improve your server as to prevent division. The idea that these servers can co-exist without much division, is seriously not that far-fetched.

As for the idea that apparently the staff are clamoring to improve the server, honestly, even if they do improve it, I still don't necessarily think it'd identify as a "wiki" server, which again, the entire point of this notion, is to create an official wiki server. So I don't really see the point of this in regards to this decision. Besides, even the notion that it may get improved is largely debatable, I personally think it's too little too late, but who knows, I could be proven wrong. I'm not going to deal too much in theories (mainly cause it's 1:38 AM and I need to get to bed). I'll check in on input tomorrow morning.