Talk:The Inquisition/@comment-4037078-20190713225531/@comment-4037078-20190714065328

@CD234


 * The cataclysmic event is trustly cliffhanger!

From my perspective, the cataclysmic event is left open to interpretation. I interpret it at face value as literally what is shown at the end, i.e. the show ending and Rob's reaction to the show ending (and the reality-ending consequences of it). From your perspective, it might be something different. Don't hold your breath for the show to spell it out for you, though. It might be open-ended by design, like the ending of Lost. In which case you'll never get a word-of-god answer.


 * It's [the meaning of the painting] just your speculation.

And that entire paragraph of you ranting about things you personally didn't like about the episode where I called relevance into question is just your opinion.


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Dude, didn't Gumball travel back in time after that episode and therefore forget about the whole thing? I'm pretty sure the point of The Ex was to show that Rob trying to ignore Gumball wasn't working. He got desperate and declared Banana Joe his nemesis, because he was trying to spare Gumball, but Gumball has some mental issues, so he got hurt by this. Rob had no choice but to go back to the status quo, because it's not like Gumball would believe him if he explained the situation. If you look at Rob-centric episodes after The Ex, Rob isn't directly antagonistic to Gumball. In The Spinoffs, he tries to take over the internet. This can be seen as an attempt to loophole around the end of the show instead of as a direct attack against Gumball (especially when given the context of the next two episodes I'm about to mention). In The future, he kidnaps Banana Barbara, and only because he's trying to figure out what happens to *him* in the future. This is in reference to the catacylsm. He only fights with Gumball because Gumball's gonna misinterpret it as an evil plan and try to stop him. Which he does. Finally, in The Inquisition, he tries to turn all the characters into humans to get them to the "other place". I see this as nothing else than an attempt to escape the crumbling reality of Gumball so that they can continue to exist inside the reality of some other show (e.g. a live-action sitcom). Under this lens, The Spinoffs can be seen as yet another attempt to escape the TAWOG universe into another universe. The Inquisition was merely his last resort. So saying that they broke his character is debatable at best.


 * I want to listen your opinion in reverse. Does every story always need bad endings?

I'm not convinced that you actually read my rebuttal on that point. Because that's not what I said. Like at all. I said that every story having the same ending makes stories predictable. If you don't know whether something is going to end well, poorly, or bittersweet, then you can't just sit there and go "eh, they'll all make it out in the end", because--just like in real life--what if they don't? The point is that a happy ending shouldn't be expected. And it's good that there are shows/movies like Dexter, The Sopranos, Akira, Made in Abyss, Bojack, Berserk--hell, *Seinfeld*--to help subvert that trend.


 * What's wrong with ordinary ending? Is it so much fun to see everyone's misery?

Loaded questions will get you nowhere, bud.


 * I'm sorry, but from my point of view you are too optimistic.

Assuming you're using the word optimistic--it's hard to tell because you put it in the same sentence where you tried to mischaracterize me as a sadist with a loaded question--I have to ask you what's wrong with optimism? Looking on the bright side of things never hurt anybody, and it's always nice to have an alternative, optimistic viewpoint to help put things into perspective. Yes, I am an optimist. I am also a nihilist, an athetist, a futurist and a realist.