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Valer22 wrote: Jamesgrout wrote:

Valer22 wrote:

Jamesgrout wrote:

Valer22 wrote: Gumball wasn't really "the villain". He was just being himself. Gumball has always been kind of an [redacted] (one of the reasons why the general audience like him). He is kind of selfish, naïve and mischievous. And Gumball didn't force Darwin to scam the school with him, Darwin could have just said "no", but he chose to come along because he wanted to be with Carrie.

But despite Gumball's greed in this episode, he still chose to sacrifice all his candy for the sake of Darwin and Carrie's safety. He was not an [redacted] to start with, he wasn't selfish in season 1 or 2 episodes like The Spoon, eager to help a charity out or The Storm encouraging Alan to attack him for Carmen to see he still loves her, he wasn't mischievous, just prone to making colossus mistakes, he never meant for anything bad to happen, he may be depicted pretty badly in most later episodes but he hasn't always been an [redacted], Getting Darwin involved wasn't what I meant, steeling everyone's candy was what I meant.

I always used to like and support Gumball for always having good intentions, not for being an [redacted] Actually, he was kind of selfish (sometimes even insensitive) in season 1 and 2. He's no Eric Cartman, but he's no Mother Teresa either. Like in The Helmet, when he wanted the power of that tinfoil hat for himself despite that it was ruining his family, The Bet, when he took advantage of Bobert's slave mode to do mischief, The Hero, when he was quite mean to Richard and The Quest, when he took Anais' doll on the bus knowing that she would be teased and didn't even want to get it back from Tina until Anais used puppy eyes on him.

And yes, he was mischievous from the beginning. I already mentioned what he did in The Bet. But he also displayed miscief in Halloween, when he drew on Larry to make him look like a convict, in The Prank, when he excessively pulled pranks on Richard and The Limit, when he put makeup on Nicole when she was unable to move.

And while he isn't necessarily trying to be mean, he is often mean to others, he's just so naïve that he doesn't always realize his error. He has been like that since the series' beginning. In later episodes, he isn't any more selfish or mischievious as he was before. He still does good things as well like before. Like in The Shell, when he helped Penny overcome her insecurity. The Mothers, when he was determined to do something good for Nicole. The Fraud, he could have easily blackmailed principal Brown but he didn't. He helped Rocky get a new job in The Boss. He saved Bobert in The Upgrade and much more.

So Gumball is pretty much like he was in earlier episodes. The only difference is that he is slightly more mature now.

And yes, it may have been wrong of him to scam people to get candy. But then again, he is just a kid. In The Helmet, that was just a case of the power taking control of him, it wasn't his fault, the helmet was changing him, The Hero was him at his worst, yes, but TV shows have their out of character episodes, the first one I always think of is I Only Have Surprise for You, Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends, Bobert tired to take Gumballs life in The Robot so to heck with anyone who says Gumball was in the wrong in The Bet

In The Quest it was Anais fault for taking Daisy out of her bag and she was the selfish one making Gumball face Tina, in The Prank, Richard pranked Gumball first, they were just having fun, they didn't mean for him to drift as far as he did on the river, they didn't realise because they're dumb remember, and they didn't mean for the bucket prank to be serious enough for the doctors to come.

Nicole deserved what she got in The Limit after her actions in The Fridge and The Hero so to heck with her.

Gumball wasn't in his body drawing make up on Larry and Darwin would have stopped him like he usually tries to if it really were bad behaviour.

What is important is that his intentions were always good he just did never realise his error.

Again I have to disagree, he is nothing now like he was in earlier episodes, and that's the writers faults. In The Helmet, Gumball could have just stopped wearing that helmet and agreed with his siblings, who were obviously right about what was happening. Nicole and Richard agreed with them, so Gumball should have done the same.

As for The Robot, Bobert takes things too literally, him being a machine after all. Maybe Gumball should have been more specific. Even so, that is still not a good reason for treating him like he did in The Bet.

And Nicole did not deserve what she got in The Limit. She already learned her lesson in The Fridge and what happened in The Hero was Gumball and Darwin's fault.

And as for the Quest, Gumball was the one who brought Daisy on the bus. So the whole conflict in that episode was because of his mischief.

And so what if Gumball wasn't in his body when drawing on Larry? He was still himself, being mischievous and selfish. For heaven's sake, he probably got Larry arrested.

And while Richard did prank Gumball and Darwin first. Gumball was the one who took it overboard. He could have just stopped after the ketchup prank.

So no, many of Gumball's actions were not intended for good, but to satisfy himself. Him being mischievous and a bit selfish is who he has always been. He's not any less innocent in recent episodes than he was in the older ones. In fact, he is somewhat comparable to Bart Simpson. Not very bright, mischievous and a bit selfish but also with a big heart and fun-loving.

He is not like Bart Simpson, Bart is bad to the bone and was expelled on 2 occasions, Gumball, as clarified in The Apology is a good kid with no reason for being suspended, I already said about The Hero that TV shows have out of character episodes but they're only 12, they can't get jobs to pay for their own food and accommodation, Nicole could have just grounded them